Pokemon Breeding [Discussion Thread]

[Lazarus]

As we all know, this has been talked over before was never really given a concrete process.

So I'm putting this up here for everyone to give their thoughts and ideas on how to implement it.

[Coralie Blake]

I think we should have the ranch as a breeding/storage sort of place. You could RP as your Pokemon there, and if you wanted to breed you could make a thread or PM a mod (maybe add breeding mods) to randomize gender and ability, and if there's a possibility of egg moves. But it'd be fun because it wouldn't be all OOC, you could have your Pokemon in storage interact there, so there'd be more of a point to catching extras.

[Elena Roan]

I second this

[speedy]

Ditto

[Raize Phoenix]

QQ I agree with speedy, who agrees elena, who seems to concur with cora's idea.

[Kasia Stark]

In short:
I agree with everybody here so far.

In long:
A ranch would be awesome! I'd love to be able to RP there with da pokemon, and it seems like it would be a wonderful place for the breeding to take place. They could... idk... go on dates in the little ponds/groves of trees/whatever we give them in the ranch that they like... Kinda like Oak's ranch thing outside his lab. "And they all live together happily" sorta thing, until they're switched out. Then they battle for their trainers. They could... idk... make friends with other peoples' pokenomnomnom...*ahem*... pokemon... there.

[Rixie Pakuna]

So... adding on to myself... (Since Laz says we should discuss little details etc...)

We should have a board for the Ranch in general, and then we could have a Sub-board for different areas of the Ranch? Basically, a place to allow all diferent kinds of pokemon to live comfortably there.
-Grove of trees
-Big pond or small lake
-Stony/sandy hill
-Grassy field
Or we could just say that if you post in the ranch you can go to any of those areas... they're not exactly huge and far away...

And if we don't have those as subboards, should we have a subboard for breeding...? Or should we just breeding mentioned in the tag? For example:
Don't Count your Torchics... [Selena/Breeding]

[Coralie Blake]

I like that. There could be a main area, then those sort of places around the edges of it. That way, Pokemon from two different places could make friends, too. I think it'll be awesome, since a lot of us RP our Pokemon together anyway, and this way there's an actual place for it and it's not just them sneaking off. xD

[Eros Wakefield]

Going off of Rixie's ideas:

I think that if we do use the sub-boards ideas, then those should be the areas for "breeding." In breeding areas, RP'ers must roleplay their Pokemon!

In the general area you are to roleplay as your character. You can interact with in-storage Pokemon or maybe have class there? The idea would be its an open field. Pokemon aren't allowed to breed in the open field (they wouldn't breed where anyone could walk by and see them).

The sub-boards would be more terrain specific places, as Rixie pointed out. On these boards you roleplay as your Pokemon interacting with a familiar face (perhaps one of its trainer's best friend's in-storing Pokemon) or trying to make friends of its own. Or maybe looking for love?

Just my thoughts.

[Coralie Blake]

But they wouldn't necessarily have to mate, you could just RP dates or friendships in there between Pokemon, too.

[Eros Wakefield]

Well maybe a smaller field as opposed to the large field? I'm just trying to express the idea that I don't think that threads showcasing the RPing of human characters and those showcasing the RPing of Pokemon should be intertwined.

[Coralie Blake]

Yeah, well, the big field works. I'm just saying, we can have threads with other purposes than breeding. =P

[Lazarus]

So...the more technical side of the breeding is...? We already have the ranch down so we might be able to implement it in time.

[Tyler Silverman]

I never put up my thoughts before but I've been more thinking about the technical stuff, for example.

- Pokemon have to have been shown as interested in each other ICly, can include the breeding thread, but there should be pre-breeding thread proof of it

- It's determined what moves can be passed on from the father (both-parents moves are only levelup so useless, unless we change that mechanic) and ___ number of those moves are inherited by the child. Child is mother's species.

- ___ number of threads required with egg in order to hatch it... possibly having a Flame Body/Magma Armour Pokemon reduces or halves this number.

- Stuff such as personality could be determined by owner/s, abilities would likely be random, as would gender (perhaps a roll?).

My thoughts at least, it's all up to change.

[Eros Wakefield]

I like Tyler's rules so far. I say you should plug in the holes and present it as your official proposal for breeding rules.

[Rixie Pakuna]

1. If both parents know one or more moves that their offspring could learn by leveling up, the offspring will have that move.
2. If the male Pokémon knows a TM or HM move that the offspring can learn, the offspring will have that move.
3. If the male Pokémon knows a move that the offspring can learn only by breeding. For example, if a male Dragonite knowing Outrage is bred with a female Charizard, the resulting Charmander will know Outrage.

I think numbers 1 doesn't really apply to the site, since our pokemon don't have a limit of 4 moves (like they do in the game). But I like rules number 2 and 3 as a guideline to what egg moves a baby pokemon can have.

We're thinking a basic number of 4 threads to hatch an egg, (every egg will automatically receive one egg move) and then +1 thread per egg move wanted. Maximum of 3 egg moves? Or 4?

Basically, we can group up all the possible egg moves that the father can pass on, and then add in all the TM's/HM's that he knows into a little pool of possible egg moves. Then there's another thing. Should we have the breeding mods choose the egg moves through random dice rolls? (Owner of egg says how many egg moves they want, breeding mod rolls that many times) Or do we want the owner of egg to decide what egg moves the baby will get?

[Thomas Faye]

On Bulbapedia, it will list the Egg Moves available...so no need to cross reference the parents so much....I like the 4 threads for no moves, +1 for each after that.

[Adriel Sorano]

In all honesty, I don't see why we can't just have them learn all the egg moves that the pairing in question can learn...granted, this is without taking into account TMs and HMs.

I mean...the most I've seen that a Pokemon can have as far as number of Egg Moves with a single pairing is four moves...which...as far as I'm concerned, doesn't really make much of a difference considering they can still use all of their level-up moves.

On the flipside, there are a lot of pairings that can only learn one or two moves...for example, say we breed a female Samurott with a male Dugtrio. The resulting Oshawott will be born with Night Slash...and that's it >.>

But this is just me. Other than that, this system seems alright.

[Rixie Pakuna]

Okay so. After discussing further with Adriel, Tom, Laz, we've come to the conclusion that inheriting TM/HMs just makes things to complicated... Therefore this will serve as the (first draft) of the rule regarding egg moves...

-Eggs can inherit all the learn-by-breeding moves from the father. It takes at least 4 threads to hatch an egg, at which point the hatchling will automatically receive one of the moves (randomly generated by the breeding mod). If you decide to use 5 threads (meaning the baby will get two egg moves) then two of the moves are randomly selected out of however many can be passed on by the father.

If you want the hatchling to have more egg moves, follow the basic chart:
4 Mandatory Threads= Baby has 1 Egg Move
4 Mandatory Threads + 1 Extra= Baby has 2 Egg Moves
4 Mandatory Threads + 2 Extra= Baby has 3 Egg Moves
and so on and so forth until the amount of learned-by-breeding moves from the father is reached

To see what egg moves are available from your pairing:
1. Go to Bulbapedia.
2. Go to the species of the pokemon's page.
3. Scroll down to Learn-by-Breeding section.
4. Look at all the moves that have the father listed next to them. These are your possible moves.

[Arcen Larush]

Okay so... Nobody's replying/complaining so I'm putting this here as a rough draft before putting this up as the official breeding rules. This is a sort of: "If anyone has any complaints, speak now or forever hold your peace!" (not really cause rules are always still subject to change... but you get the idea)

- Pokemon have to have been shown as interested in each other ICly, can include the breeding thread, but there should be pre-breeding thread proof of it

- Personality can be chosen by the owner of the egg, ability and gender will be randomly selected by the breeding mod.

-It takes at least 4 threads with an egg for it to hatch, and one more thread per extra egg move.

Egg Moves
-Eggs can inherit all the learn-by-breeding moves from the father.

If you want the hatchling to have more egg moves, follow the basic chart:
4 Mandatory Threads= Baby has 1 Egg Move
4 Mandatory Threads + 1 Extra= Baby has 2 Egg Moves
4 Mandatory Threads + 2 Extra= Baby has 3 Egg Moves
and so on and so forth until the amount of learned-by-breeding moves from the father is reached

To see what egg moves are available from your pairing:
1. Go to Bulbapedia.
2. Go to the species of the pokemon's page.
3. Scroll down to Learn-by-Breeding section.
4. Look at all the moves that have the father listed next to them. These are your possible moves.